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	<title>Comments on: Noah’s olives go in the jars</title>
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	<description>Two American expat city boys on 20 acres with an olive grove in New Zealand</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Freer</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Freer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve done olive pickling which we did in wood-ash lye (normally for green olives - but I did full ripe) with lemon instead of the vinegar. They were exquisite, even without the home-grown olive oil. I hope to do them again in Tas. And no matter what the innuck says, those jars were worth every ounce of effort, in quality and memories. More people should grow their own food :-)
cheers
Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done olive pickling which we did in wood-ash lye (normally for green olives &#8211; but I did full ripe) with lemon instead of the vinegar. They were exquisite, even without the home-grown olive oil. I hope to do them again in Tas. And no matter what the innuck says, those jars were worth every ounce of effort, in quality and memories. More people should grow their own food :-)<br />
cheers<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: RevAllyson</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RevAllyson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly. And I&#039;ll bet you dimes for dollars that it makes you a heck of a lot healthier too. I fail to see how a flavorless clone tomato can beat the vibrant vitamin C and sunshiney goodness of my home-grown ones. :) And yes, those can grabber thingies are the best buy, shy of the pressure canner. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. And I&#8217;ll bet you dimes for dollars that it makes you a heck of a lot healthier too. I fail to see how a flavorless clone tomato can beat the vibrant vitamin C and sunshiney goodness of my home-grown ones. :) And yes, those can grabber thingies are the best buy, shy of the pressure canner. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Moon Over Martinborough</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moon Over Martinborough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Growing and pickling and pressing olives is definitely a high risk activity. It&#039;s a fact that a small scale grove in New Zealand won&#039;t make you rich. There&#039;s a bigger risk however, and that lies in the fact that if you&#039;re not careful, it just might make you happy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing and pickling and pressing olives is definitely a high risk activity. It&#8217;s a fact that a small scale grove in New Zealand won&#8217;t make you rich. There&#8217;s a bigger risk however, and that lies in the fact that if you&#8217;re not careful, it just might make you happy.</p>
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		<title>By: RevAllyson</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RevAllyson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sea Innuck,

No offense, but if all you saw in this post was a &quot;cost benefit analysis&quot; then you missed the point entirely. As I talk about in my own blog, they&#039;re not packaging up olives - they&#039;re packaging up summer, and memories. Each jar of olives they put up, is a jar of olives they don&#039;t need to buy later in the year. Each portion of preserved food that ANY family puts up provides them with one more serving that doesn&#039;t need to be purchased at a grocery.

There are plenty of statistics out there to prove it&#039;s cheaper to buy. Of course it is! When you can mass produce, and grow genetically modified fruits that last longer, don&#039;t spoil as easily, and don&#039;t bruise, then you can produce cheaper goods. But you get what you pay for. When I want to eat cardboard, all I need to do is buy tomatoes from a grocery store. Sure they&#039;re cheap... but you get what you pay for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sea Innuck,</p>
<p>No offense, but if all you saw in this post was a &#8220;cost benefit analysis&#8221; then you missed the point entirely. As I talk about in my own blog, they&#8217;re not packaging up olives &#8211; they&#8217;re packaging up summer, and memories. Each jar of olives they put up, is a jar of olives they don&#8217;t need to buy later in the year. Each portion of preserved food that ANY family puts up provides them with one more serving that doesn&#8217;t need to be purchased at a grocery.</p>
<p>There are plenty of statistics out there to prove it&#8217;s cheaper to buy. Of course it is! When you can mass produce, and grow genetically modified fruits that last longer, don&#8217;t spoil as easily, and don&#8217;t bruise, then you can produce cheaper goods. But you get what you pay for. When I want to eat cardboard, all I need to do is buy tomatoes from a grocery store. Sure they&#8217;re cheap&#8230; but you get what you pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: Sea Innuck</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-467</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sea Innuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this hoo-ha for 5 jars?

Have you ever even heard of a cost/benefit analysis?! They must be the 5 most expensive jars of olives ever.

As an agricultural economist, I can tell you that the olive industry in NZ is heading for a massive dump caused by chronic over-supply as more people jump on the bandwagon and their groves come to production.

There is a limit how many people will pay enough for oil to make it sustainable in a population as small as NZ and we are perilously close to it now! I just did a paper on it for publication soon.

Sadly, Kiwis are all too fond of ignoring the economic realities of such ventures: most of the wineries struggle to make a profit as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this hoo-ha for 5 jars?</p>
<p>Have you ever even heard of a cost/benefit analysis?! They must be the 5 most expensive jars of olives ever.</p>
<p>As an agricultural economist, I can tell you that the olive industry in NZ is heading for a massive dump caused by chronic over-supply as more people jump on the bandwagon and their groves come to production.</p>
<p>There is a limit how many people will pay enough for oil to make it sustainable in a population as small as NZ and we are perilously close to it now! I just did a paper on it for publication soon.</p>
<p>Sadly, Kiwis are all too fond of ignoring the economic realities of such ventures: most of the wineries struggle to make a profit as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon Over Martinborough</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moon Over Martinborough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I need those can grabber things! Fantastic that you do so much canning. You&#039;re in inspiration to newbies like me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I need those can grabber things! Fantastic that you do so much canning. You&#8217;re in inspiration to newbies like me.</p>
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		<title>By: CityGirl</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CityGirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Death by Olives&quot;

I have the same fear, only it is of making: The Salmon Mousse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Death by Olives&#8221;</p>
<p>I have the same fear, only it is of making: The Salmon Mousse.</p>
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		<title>By: RevAllyson</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RevAllyson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your writing is enchanting! I followed your link after you commented in mine, and I&#039;ve never been so glad! :) 

Just so you know, there are neat little tools you can get, designed JUST for removing glass jars from boiling water and pressure canners. Here&#039;s a picture:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tys6n13YiAE/SjBNNFFh2bI/AAAAAAAAAg0/5dmCIkYvINo/s1600-h/100_0015.JPG

They have rubber coated handles so you never burn your hands on metal (though please do use oven mitts with good grips when using them), and they have rubber grippers on the bottom part so the jars don&#039;t slip out.

Your boiling water bath is, as mentioned, good for acidic foods (and olives in vinegar do qualify). However, if you&#039;re ever worried, invest in a pressure canner. We can our own chicken broth, green beans, and other non-acidic foods with no worries at all. Scrupulous cleanliness is important, and a good guide to pressure canning. For instance, our chicken broth is canned at 212 degrees F (the temperature of boiling water), at a pressure of 220 pounds, for 20 minutes. This ensures that nothing can live inside there. The pressure poundage creates a higher temperature than boiling water alone can achieve, thereby killing off your botulism spores. 

We live by our pressure canner. :) It&#039;s so useful for canning, and it&#039;s large enough to use as a back-up soup pot if we have lots of people coming over. AND if you get a tough old hen that&#039;s outlived her egg laying days, you can slaughter her and put her in for a while, and she comes out tender as a pullet. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your writing is enchanting! I followed your link after you commented in mine, and I&#8217;ve never been so glad! :) </p>
<p>Just so you know, there are neat little tools you can get, designed JUST for removing glass jars from boiling water and pressure canners. Here&#8217;s a picture:</p>
<p><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tys6n13YiAE/SjBNNFFh2bI/AAAAAAAAAg0/5dmCIkYvINo/s1600-h/100_0015.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tys6n13YiAE/SjBNNFFh2bI/AAAAAAAAAg0/5dmCIkYvINo/s1600-h/100_0015.JPG</a></p>
<p>They have rubber coated handles so you never burn your hands on metal (though please do use oven mitts with good grips when using them), and they have rubber grippers on the bottom part so the jars don&#8217;t slip out.</p>
<p>Your boiling water bath is, as mentioned, good for acidic foods (and olives in vinegar do qualify). However, if you&#8217;re ever worried, invest in a pressure canner. We can our own chicken broth, green beans, and other non-acidic foods with no worries at all. Scrupulous cleanliness is important, and a good guide to pressure canning. For instance, our chicken broth is canned at 212 degrees F (the temperature of boiling water), at a pressure of 220 pounds, for 20 minutes. This ensures that nothing can live inside there. The pressure poundage creates a higher temperature than boiling water alone can achieve, thereby killing off your botulism spores. </p>
<p>We live by our pressure canner. :) It&#8217;s so useful for canning, and it&#8217;s large enough to use as a back-up soup pot if we have lots of people coming over. AND if you get a tough old hen that&#8217;s outlived her egg laying days, you can slaughter her and put her in for a while, and she comes out tender as a pullet. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only you could write an olive story this good!  I read in awe of all the detailed work, care and precaution you took in preparing your olives (to avoid the dreaded botulism) and then grimaced as I read about the spill and those crazy gloves.  But, with relief, there was a happy ending.  It sounds like your hard working guests devoured them and with such a story to wet their appetites I am not surprised they went down a treat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only you could write an olive story this good!  I read in awe of all the detailed work, care and precaution you took in preparing your olives (to avoid the dreaded botulism) and then grimaced as I read about the spill and those crazy gloves.  But, with relief, there was a happy ending.  It sounds like your hard working guests devoured them and with such a story to wet their appetites I am not surprised they went down a treat.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon Over Martinborough</title>
		<link>http://moonovermartinborough.com/2009/08/08/noahs-olives-go-in-the-jars/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moon Over Martinborough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ll have an Olive Fest soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll have an Olive Fest soon.</p>
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